racing classes at frcc

[big si]

what does everyone think of the classes we run at FRCC (19t and 27t)

would you welcome running other classes such as mardaves or 18th scales on carpet nights?

this is just out of interest folks so dont think that we will for sure start running these.oh and its a multi choice poll so you can pick all points if you want

[scotty]

We've been down this road before with us trying to run 12th scale on carpet nights.We just didn't have the time to fit them in and with the club being as busy as it has been lately i think we'd still struggle.Ideally i'd love to start Mardaves as it's a cheap alternative to Touring cars and looks a lot of fun.My 2 year old daughter is getting itchy hands just now and i think Mardaves would be ideal for her.

[Malcolm Williams]

Tend to agree with you Scott, although if the club concensus agrees perhaps one heat of a carpet night those that have Mardaves could do a sample race to see if it could be done with out too much hassle to the saloons.
Afterall it could be the same track layout and they do run on foams. Obviously not allowing the addatives that are usually used (tyre grip ones). I for one would welcome a chance to try it out as I know a few others have them and other 1/12th cars, both two and four wheel drive ones, you could then allow the 1/10th mini boys to race with them.
The two wheel drives certainly make you more aware of your driving skills and in my opinion can improve your overall driving skills if mastered, plus its real good fun as they are cheaper to run and maintain.
Thats my two pennerf for what its worth
Malky

[Dave]

Nitro and Gas powered cars!

Now I have not voted Other as I think you mean on a friday night but if we got an outdoor track I would love to have a go at running a nitro powered car.

I voted for Mardaves, 1/12th Scale and 10th scale mod.

[Kevin Falconer]

i voted modified and mardave, mardaves would be ideal for all ability levels, go to any club that runs them and you will find kids, adults and some of the top touring car drivers racing them as they are good fun and can be tricky to master but can be very rewarding when you do, the beauty of mardaves is that beacuse everyone runs the same motors and 4 cells there is no power advantage, no one has the better motor, and "team" cells can only offer a very limited advantage. 90% of it is in the driving and set up, and also the spares are dirt cheap (try buying a chassi for a tamiya or a xray for 2.95), i voted modified 1/10th as well simply because i love racing mods and there is no club that caters for them on a regular basis apart from the odd fun night at kirkcaldy

[madmac]

Guys I wouldn’t play with the format you have at Falkirk, with 40 plus racers all using the same cars it makes it very competitive.

I used to race at Lochgelly 10 years ago when we all raced the same cars (10th 4wd buggies) and then it was very competitive. I have been 5 or 6 times over the last few months and I must say its not as it once was, in my opinion, having too many classes just dilutes the racing, 3 heats of mardaves, 12 touring cars spilt into 3 heats and 2 12th scale cars running in there own heat doesn’t in my mind give the excitement of everyone racing in the same class.

I also think the same about the indoor gp and the carpet champs, too many different classes running at the same time.
Take the touring cars out doors, how many raced in the modified class last year? Would it not have been better to have everyone in 19t and have a larger class overall?

Why was the overall turnout pretty low, was it because too many people race other classes? (mardaves, buggies,12th scale ).

Maybe I’m being short-sighted in this, and I welcome debate, and I also agree mardaves are great for learning to drive but in my opinion to keep the racing strong we should all race in the same class.

I know I keep going back 10 years but I remember having 100 plus people booked in and a reserve list of drivers waiting for someone to drop out for some of the Scottish rounds of the off road series. Was it because there was more people racing, dont think so. it was because at that time unless you raced down south at the nationals the majority of people had 4wd buggies and we all raced together.

Simon can you please add a ' leave as is ' button to your poll as thats the one i want to press!!

Many Regards
Mark Ewing

[big si]

sorry mark i cant add any options i will see if ballsie can do it for me

BALLSIE WHERE ARE YOU :lol:

all valid points mark and you do put up a strong point of view but...........

i think adding classes will do the club the world of good as it will bring more younger members in who are the next generation of racers. also allowing mardaves 1/18th 1/12th (addative not being an issue) we would produce a better standard of driver and marshall which can only be a good thing for the club

[big si]

chris can you tell us what other is?

[bigchris]

clicked it by accident , would like to see 18th scale i gotta run my 18t and my blaze lol
chris

[big si]

Nitro and Gas powered cars!

Now I have not voted Other as I think you mean on a friday night but if we got an outdoor track I would love to have a go at running a nitro powered car.

I voted for Mardaves, 1/12th Scale and 10th scale mod.

do you know there is a nitro club in stirling

[Maxxed_Ross]

I'm with Scotty on this one, we tried to run other classes at the same time as 1/10th and it took far too long - and we lost a fair bit of the hall to "the mardave oval" :x That was the whole reason buggy racing was phased out on a Friday night all those years ago - it just didn't have the numbers to support the amount of extra time it took up. I remember many a night we were still racing well after midnight! :lol:

It would be great to see more classes... but unless we start earlier or run more than once a week I can't see it happening with our current numbers :sad:

Did they not run 1/12th and mardaves on the Sunday at the buggy club?

[big si]

we lost a fair bit of the hall to "the mardave oval"

why do you need an oval?
just make them run the track thats already put out just like at the SCC

[Malcolm Williams]

I'm with Scotty on this one, we tried to run other classes at the same time as 1/10th and it took far too long - and we lost a fair bit of the hall to "the mardave oval" :x That was the whole reason buggy racing was phased out on a Friday night all those years ago - it just didn't have the numbers to support the amount of extra time it took up. I remember many a night we were still racing well after midnight! :lol:

It would be great to see more classes... but unless we start earlier or run more than once a week I can't see it happening with our current numbers :sad:

Did they not run 1/12th and mardaves on the Sunday at the buggy club?

Ross, if my memory serves me right it was dropped from sundays as it meant keep altering the track to accomodate the Mardaves not being able to cope with the jumps; that was why I suggested Fridays carpet track nights, no need to change the track even if it was only one heat; and that would only be feasable if say 4 or more were there with Mardaves and / or 1/12th cars and possibly the 1/10th minis.
I seem to remember some of the top guys at the club have some if not all of these in their collections, so minimum numbers of 4 + should not be a problem.
Improving the driver skills and providing cheaper alternatives to start in our sport / hobby and the other advantages already mentioned here and elsewhere.;-) :-P

[Malcolm Williams]

I forgot to vote for 1/12th as well as Mardaves:lol:

How do I add my 1/12th vote?

[ballsie]

Malcolm - added a vote for 1/12th to you.

Simon - added the other choice you wanted.

Cheers Guys.

[big si]

thanks ballsie i knew you could do it


happy now mark :lol:

[Malcolm Williams]

Cheers Alan, but my name does not appear on the 1/12th listing although the vote does (4 names 5 votes; being an old woman again M8
thanks both of you for the adjustment though
Malky

[big si]

dont worry about it malky we know its you from the above post

[ballsie]

Yeah Si; I can't vote on others behalf.

Cheers.

[Malcolm Williams]

Cool Guys

[Big Bruce]

Well going on the changes ive seen going through in the past 6 years, where ive seen almost everything on the track (including caravans and hovercraft!) id have to say the interested that sparked the new class off normally goes out fairly quickly, leaving a few guys racing and pushing the 1/10th racing another 30 mins later over the whole night!

Just stick at what we are good at, concentrate at getting one class a night right, and save a bit of cash/spend more on the tourer!

If on the other hand everybody has started driving mardaves or 1/18ths since i last turned up, maybe there could be room in the night? It all has to depend on how many touring heats there are, if you have 4/5 heats of tourers there is not much time to add 4heats and a final for another class (adds 40 mins to the night???)

[John Lindsay]

I'm in the leave it as is boat aswell.

We were through at Lochgelly last night, where there were Mardaves, 1/10th Touring and 12th Scale,

Say 15 of each Mardaves and TC's (probably less) but there was only ONE 12th scale which was hardly worth it, and this was a round of the 1/12th scale championship.

I think to diversify would be to dilute, it's hard enough to run 2 classes at a big meeting such as the SCC, to do it at a club would be nigh on impossible, therefore I don't think you'll get anyone doing 2 classes a night, and running mardaves to introduce new racers is all fair and well but I don't really think we need to do it, we have a VERY healthy club at FRCC, from people the age of young Ryan Ewing To Bus Pass Paterson when we're pulling near on 50 drivers a night why change it, ARCCC tonight had an unusually high number of 10 racers, which is due to the fact that we can't get into the school at East Kilbride, so we have some Claremont members down racing with us.

However, these are only my views.

"If it's not broke don't fix it" springs to mind.



John

[big si]

good posts guys

just remember this is just a discussion thread and non of the outcome will come into play its purely for interest

[ballsie]

I voted for the 1/10th mod - keeping it purely for tourers, but having the odd mod night for a laugh.

Might be a bit mental for the size of hall though.

[Big Bruce]

I voted for the 1/10th mod - keeping it purely for tourers, but having the odd mod night for a laugh.

Might be a bit mental for the size of hall though.

When we changed over to 19T from modified a few years back we found that the 19T did almost everything a mod did (quick enough for a 15m long main straight!) with the benefit of the price limit :grin: